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Scalia MP1 followup: Branding and Casey
[First of all, I wish to make classic blogger error #4, and apologize for the long hiatus between posting. Such apologies draw attention to the error, fail to remedy it, and ring hollow. If I wanted to post daily, I could. It is not possible to post thoughtfully while I'm at trial, and I shouldn't try; but in the meantime, I can get back to regular posting. Here goes.]

Anonymous #4, frequent reader and commenter, wrote in the comments to my first installment of the Scalia MegaPost, on the Living Constitution:

Whose preferences shall be enshrined in the law?
An excellent question, A#4, and I intend to address it.

I recommend everyone to go read his whole comment - wait, why send you, when I can just paste it all here, with hidden HTML so you don't have to see the rest unless you want?
Assuming that a branding case came up to the Supreme Court, should they

1. Hold hearings-
2. Sponsor a study-
3. Put the issue to a referendum-
4. Consult the law of other countries-

Or

5. Consult their own consciences and considered reaction-(rest of comment hidden behind the jump)
(end of comment)

Well, wasn't that special? Let's dialogue with A#4; thanks for the comment. Interesting point. I don't agree, as I indicated in my own comment. But it's Scalia I'm really disagreeing with, at least as much as you.

On Branding
Why Branding doesn't require an impermissible value judgment.

Assuming that a branding case came before the Supreme Court, based on a claim of a constitutional violation under the First, Fifth, and Eighth Amendments and possibly "something else," what should a court do?

Hold a hearing, sponsor studies? Why no, you ninny, as my Crim Law prof was wont to say. The court should look at the text and purpose of the clauses at issue to see if they support a claim. In this case, the Eighth Amendment says, and I quote,
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Now, I don't know about you, but i read that as having content. Meaning, I call it. "Excessive" means a judgment call is called for. So do "cruel" and "unusual" - and I'd even misread it on purpose, as "cruel or unusual." Is it a conjunctive and, or does it mean "or"? Do you know? Does anyone? Probably. But let's just read it without the benefit of that knowledge.

The 8th is supposed to allow Congress to be guided by the intentions of the Founders, right? Well, no, I'd argue that it was _intended_ to do nothing whatsoever. Much like the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc. Amendments, there were several schools of thought:

  1. The Amendment has no meaning and no significance; if someone else wants it, we can stick it in and it won't tie our hands


  2. The Amendment has no meaning, and is important only because it reflects the protections that the Constitution provides in any case - the only danger being that some foolish future generation might not think it obvious that the Constitution itself protects these things, and that therefore "what is not included, was to be excluded." The government being one of limited powers, granted "by the people," it naturally cannot expand its own power. [too bad that one didn't catch on]


  3. The Amendment is crucially important, because those silly Federalists (meaning Federalists, not meaning Anti-Federalists such as some members of FedSoc) want to strip away our rights to have armed militias, to avoid an oppressive establishment Church, to keep soldiers out of our homes, to protect our historical rights to a jury of our peers.

I have sympathy for some of the above. But I don't think the intent matters. What was key to one voter or one state was not to another; the words must govern, as interpreted today.

Justice Scalia's comments that you quoted - that if Roe was not rightly decided at the time, and if it has not produced a settled body of law, then it should be overruled - is a nice argument. I think it's not even adequate, on its own, but that's another argument: the Roe argument.

We're still having the Branding argument.

But feel free to bring up Roe more in comments; maybe I'll complete and publish the Roe post I've been contemplating.
Posted by Eh Nonymous on Friday September 30, 2005 at 11:58am

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